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The Folly of The Fool

December 1, 2009

When we call someone a fool we usually mean it in a condescending manner; we are substituting the word fool for the word stupid. Is that what the bible is implying in Psalm 14:1? Not at all. The actual render for the word fool in the passages context is the Hebrew word nabal which refers more a to a moral fool or a completely amoral person. When a person is regenerated or born again (Gr. anothen) there has been a constitutional and moral change; the old has passed away and they are now a new creation. The moral change is where the atheist have the issue, why? Because to them if the God of the bible exists, then they know that He would require them to have His standard of morality. So, they rid themselves of the existence of God and thus freeing themselves up to live as morally or immorally as they see fit. This also gives them freedom from accountability and also gives them a license to live without restraint; this type of thinking abolishes the concept of moral absolutes. Which always leaves me with this thought, if there is no absolute moral standard then how do they judge what’s right and wrong? By what standard then is stealing, rape, and murder wrong? I have seen throughout my years as a christian that the main reason why people have an issue with God is because they cannot see themselves being subject to the rule or lordship of God and thus creating a factitious god to suite there needs and desires. Trying to rid the world of an absolute standard of morality, accountability, and responsibility will only result in chaos. I will end this with a great quote by Ravi Zacharias, “Wickedness is always excused as anything but the moral degeneracy that has resulted from each one of us becoming the god of God.”

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  1. December 1, 2009 9:40 AM

    “The moral change is where the atheist have the issue, why? ”

    No.

    The issue is the lack of evidence for the existence of your particular deity and deities in general.

    That being said, I imagine I find your particular god to be immoral. But that wouldn’t prevent me from believing that it existed, provided the evidence was there.

    • December 1, 2009 2:33 PM

      ” I imagine I find your particular god to be immoral”

      My God, the God of the bible, the only one true God immoral? Let me answer that with a story…

      Some years ago, the well known astronomer Hugh Ross and I were taking part in a radio talk show at Ohio State University. We were discussing some theme related to the origin of the universe when an irate woman called in and began to attack us with a volley of words. Her charge was that our conversation was nothing more than a smoke screen for reversing Roe versus Wade and talking away a woman’s right to an abortion. Remember, we were talking about the origin of the universe. Throughout her tirade she repeatedly insisted, “it’s my moral right to do what I choose to do with my body!” Finally, when she paused for a breath, I said “Alright ma’am, since you brought it up, I would like to ask you a question. Can you explain something to me? When a plane crashes and some die while others live, a skeptic calls into question God’s moral character, saying He has chosen some to live and others to die on a whim; yet you say that it is your moral right to choose whether the child within you should live or die. Does that not sound odd to you? When God decides who should live or die, He is immoral. When you decide who should live or die, it’s your moral right.” – excerpt from The End of Reason by Ravi Zacharias

      • December 2, 2009 6:36 AM

        “My God, the God of the bible, the only one true God immoral?”

        Yep. That one. The one who orders genocide and the stoning of children to death, amongst other things.

        Quite happy that particular deity doesn’t exist.

      • December 2, 2009 7:30 AM

        Did God order the genocide of the Jews during the Holocaust? I thought that was Hitler. The stoning of children to death? Before you make such a weak accusation from a portion of the bible you might have skimmed through or heard of, why don’t you study the text properly and then speak about it. The bible is a book that requires study and has a specific intent and context in what it’s saying. You can say that God doesn’t exist but neither do atheist, when it comes to God’s existence you are agnostic at best and blasphemous at worst.

      • December 2, 2009 7:43 AM

        “Did God order the genocide of the Jews during the Holocaust? I thought that was Hitler.”

        Midianites. The Flood.

        “Before you make such a weak accusation from a portion of the bible you might have skimmed through or heard of”

        I’ve read the book from cover to cover. It says that if your child disobeys, you should take it to the outskirts of the city where you and the city elders will stone it to death. You can pretend it’s not there, or that in context stoning your children to death doesn’t mean stoning your children to death. But it’s pretty clear.

      • December 2, 2009 7:56 AM

        That’s O.T. and that means it applied to the Jews (His people). If you read the book from cover to cover then you wouldn’t have a problem understanding why such things happened (the flood, midianites, Sodom and Gomorrah) try reading Ezekiel 18. But you won’t because your disposition displays your justification.

      • December 2, 2009 8:03 AM

        “That’s O.T. and that means it applied to the Jews (His people)”

        So your argument is either that your absolute god changed his mind on what was moral (which means tomorrow rape could be moral if your god wanted it to be), or that god is fine with killing kids as long as it’s only the Jews who are doing it?

        Ezekiel 18 shows that your god doesn’t give two figs about morality at all. It only cares about obedience…which is not morality.

      • December 2, 2009 8:28 AM

        We can go back and forth all day. Ezekiel 18 shows that a Holy God cannot and will not tolerate sin and what I was pointing out was that the things that happened where a result of sin. God always judges sin. Sin being the transgression of God’s moral law and any lack of conformity to His will and or command. God is right in all He does whether you agree or not. Evidently just reading the bible did nothing for you because you didn’t do it what it asked and that being “rightly dividing the Word of truth” and applying what you read and study.

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